[RFC PATCH v2 1/3] x86/sgx: Add SGX specific LSM hooks
Xing, Cedric
cedric.xing at intel.com
Mon Jul 1 18:02:01 UTC 2019
> From: Stephen Smalley [mailto:stephen.smalley at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 6:22 PM
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 5:54 PM Xing, Cedric <cedric.xing at intel.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: linux-sgx-owner at vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-sgx-
> > > owner at vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Smalley
> > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:37 AM
> > >
> > > > lsm.ema.cache_decisions is on by default and could be turned off
> > > > by appending “lsm.ema.cache_decisions=0” or
> > > > “lsm.ema.cache_decisions=off” to the kernel command line.
> > >
> > > This seems problematic on a few fronts:
> > >
> > > - Specifying it as a boot parameter requires teaching admins /
> > > policy developers to do something in addition to what they are
> > > already doing when they want to create policy,
> > >
> > > - Limiting it to a boot parameter requires a reboot to change the
> > > mode of operation, whereas SELinux offers runtime toggling of
> > > permissive mode and even per-process (domain) permissive mode (and
> > > so does AppArmor),
> >
> > How about making a variable tunable via sysctl?
>
> Better than a boot parameter but still not amenable to per-domain
> permissive and still requires admins to remember and perform an extra
> step before collecting denials.
>
> >
> > >
> > > - In the cache_decisions=1 case, do we get any auditing at all? If
> > > not, that's a problem. We want auditing not only when we are
> > > generating/learning policy but also in operation.
> >
> > Currently it doesn't generate audit log, but I could add it, except it
> couldn't point to the exact file. But I can use the sigstruct file
> instead so administrators can at least tell which enclave violates the
> policy. Do you think it acceptable?
>
> Seems prone to user confusion and lacks precision in why the denial
> occurred.
>
> >
> > >
> > > - There is the potential for inconsistencies to arise between the
> > > enforcement applied with different cache_decisions values.
> >
> > The enforcement will be consistent. The difference only lies in the
> logs.
> >
> > >
> > > I would suggest that we just never cache the decision and accept the
> > > cost if we are going to take this approach.
> >
> > This will also be a viable option. I don't think any enclaves would be
> comprised of a large number of files anyway. When SGX2 comes up, I think
> most enclaves will be instantiated from only one file and defer loading
> libraries at runtime. So in practice we are looking to keeping only one
> file open per enclave, which seems totally acceptable.
> >
> > Stephen (and everyone having an opinion on this), which way do you
> prefer? sysctl variable? Or never cache decisions?
>
> I'd favor never caching decisions.
Alright, I'll remove the boot parameter and never cache decisions.
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