TSEM feedback.

Paul Moore paul at paul-moore.com
Tue Aug 1 18:49:52 UTC 2023


On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:55 AM Serge E. Hallyn <serge at hallyn.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 05:54:21AM -0500, Dr. Greg wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 10:57:08AM -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> >
> > Good morning, I hope the day is starting well.
> >
> > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 6:39???AM Dr. Greg <greg at enjellic.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good morning Paul, I hope this note finds your week starting well.
> > > >
> > > > We submitted the patches for the V2 release of TSEM three weeks ago.
> > > >
> > > > We received some feedback from Randy Dunlap on some documentations
> > > > issues that we went on to address.
> > > >
> > > > Haven't heard any reflections from you.  Was just wondering if you
> > > > were swamped or had possibly missed the submission?  We didn't include
> > > > you as a copy on the notion that you didn't need two sets of patches
> > > > landing in your inbox.
> >
> > > If your mail hits the mail archive on lore.kernel.org, it is almost
> > > a full guarantee that it has hit my inbox and/or the patchwork
> > > instance I use to ensure nothing is missed.
> >
> > So noted.
> >
> > > As one would expect, it takes a good deal of time to review a patch
> > > submission as large as TSEM, and the rather ornate language used in
> > > the documentation only slows the process.
> >
> > For whatever it is worth, as a group, we invested a considerable
> > amount of time, over a period of now 8+ years, in refining the
> > terminology and nomenclature embodied in that document.
> >
> > I guess the only defense at hand is a variant on the alleged response
> > by Austrian Emperor Joseph II to Mozart's "Die Entfuhrung aus dem
> > Serail":
> >
> > "It contains as many words, with appropriate ornateness, as was deemed
> > necessary."
>
> I cannot let such a golden opportunity pass to use
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA-sEfXOaEQ

 ;)

While I don't doubt that some would view the choices made in
describing TSEM as necessary, it is important to remember that those
judgements, as well as my own, are subjective.  I appreciate the time
and effort that has gone into the TSEM documentation (and welcome the
care behind it!), but I very much agree with the sentiments in the
video snippet Serge linked.

-- 
paul-moore.com



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